Update link ^^.
http://www.xf.ro/forum/showthread.php?t=3361
Update link ^^.
http://www.xf.ro/forum/showthread.php?t=3361
She wore blue velvet
Er, right.
Cine este interesat gaseste aici ultima lista de update-uri pentru Win98SE. "Ultima" insemnand ca de acum inainte sunt slabe sanse sa mai fie modificata.
I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never thought I'd see the last. - Dr. Jerry Eugene Pournelle
Deci putem declara Win 98 complet mort pentru o stație cu acces la Internet? Pentru un sistem specializat sau unul embedded nu ar fi o problemă, dar pentru Internet deja e riscant.
unreasonable
Nu inteleg rationamentul. Ce sa fie riscant?
I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never thought I'd see the last. - Dr. Jerry Eugene Pournelle
...like in future unpatched security holes?
Interesant e că unele bancomate au Win98 sub capotă. Security, anyone?
Bye, y'all!
Tot nu inteleg. Cum adica "future"? Ce gauri exista, exista acum. Gauri noi n-au cum sa mai apara. Si chiar daca au mai scapat gauri nepeticite, arata-mi windows-ul ala care nu are mai multe.
I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never thought I'd see the last. - Dr. Jerry Eugene Pournelle
Uită-te în jur...
Ideea e că la următoarele vulnerabilități descoperite vor fi disponibile patch-uri pentru "XP and above", iar băieții care face reverse engineering în patch-uri ca să vadă care e vulnerabilitatea o să dea în cap la Win'98 că nimeni nu face un patch și pentru acest fost OS.
unreasonable
Ești sigur?Originally Posted by Marius '95
Cînd un soft e proiectat fără securitate în cap poți găsi găuri la infinit. Una mai la stînga, una mai la dreapta etc.
I can clearly tell that whoever decided to put "suspend computer" or "exit program" keys on a keyboard didn't have cats.
KernelEx v4 RC2 http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=130936
KernelEx v 4.0 series is a complete rewrite of old KernelEx architecture (which ended with v0.3.6).
Highlights:
large speed improvements
compatibility improvements
minimal resource overhead
possibility to completely disable KernelEx extensions for selected applications
upgrades with single reboot
easy configuration through compatibility tab
minimal file patching
user-friendly installer
doesn't load in safe mode
language neutral
multi-language ready
Now working on Windows 98/Me:
* The Chronicles of Riddick EFBB Demo
* QEmu 0.9
Fixed regressions:
* fixed Adobe Acrobat Reader 7.0 not working with RC 1
* .Net framework was broken in RC 1 now should work correctly
* input issue in Firefox 3 affecting special characters
* eMule couldn't complete downloads in RC 1, now fixed
* transparency issue in Firefox 3
* incompatibility with Norton Utilities
Detailed Changelog:
- fixed uxtheme version check
- added compilation instructions
- fixed msimg32.AlphaBlend bug incorrectly calculating transparency
- added kernel32.GetVersionW to default configuration
- added advapi32.OpenSCManager stubs
- implemented kernel32.GetConsoleWindow
- modified CreateFile, ReadFile and WriteFile so that they now accept overlapped flag
- fixed non-working MoveFileWithProgressA
- fix: DirectX setup has disabled extensions
- added psapi.EmptyWorkingSet stub
- change: KernelEx will first load any other MPRServices before initializing
- added workaround for situation where some kernel driver hijacked system functions
- added missing disable resource check fix
- removed GetMessageW from kexbasen (already in kexbases)
- fixed issue where installer wouldn't complete on fresh system
- fixed BSOD or crashes on shutdown on certain configurations by preventing early unload
- fixed compatibility sheet not working properly for shortcuts
- implemented kernel32.IsProcessorFeaturePresent
- fix: check if last element in merge list does repeat
- fixed compilation issue with PSDK 2003
- fixed Core not displaying error messages correctly
I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never thought I'd see the last. - Dr. Jerry Eugene Pournelle
Nu vreau sa fiou carcotas, dar la adresa data de tine baietii fac o lista cu "ce merge" pe respectivul kernel, in loc de o lista de incompatibilitati.
That's because they are still using Windosws 98.I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never thought I'd see the last. - Dr. Jerry Eugene Pournelle
OT:
Serios?That's because they are still using Windosws 98.
I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never thought I'd see the last. - Dr. Jerry Eugene Pournelle
GDI Heap Extender http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=136171
Un utilitar care rezolva problema resurselor limitate din Win9x, plus ca repara o gramada de bug-uri pe care M$ le-a ignorat.
I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never thought I'd see the last. - Dr. Jerry Eugene Pournelle
KernelEx v4.5 Beta 1
What's new:
Noticeably improved speed of applications which make extensive use of memory. This was made possible by introducing new memory allocator originating from FreeBSD - jemalloc.
It improves heap memory allocation/free speed and reduces virtual memory fragmentation.
Improved compatibility with Unicode applications by implementing new windowing layer which provides NT-consistent way to work with Unicode window procedures.
Extended TLS slot limitation from 80 to 1000+, for some heavy apps.
Lifted PE loader named resource limitation, allowing named resource-heavy libraries to load.
Changed kernel obfuscator to produce positive object (process, thread) IDs in order to improve compatibility.
Introduced kexCOM - new library to take care of missing COM interfaces. Fixes creating shell shortcuts in newer installers.
GDI object destroying rules adjusted in order to fix certain resource leaks or unstability with Flash and other apps.
Implemented certain userenv, unicode winspool, thread pool functions.
Lot of API fixes and stubs.
Improved Compatibility tab.
Various architecture improvements.
Fixed uninstall kernel32.bak not restoring reliably issue.
Apps now working / fixed:
.NET Framework 2 (fixed install/uninstall and apps)
AbiWord 2.8 (usable, minor problems)
Adobe Flash 10.1 beta
Adobe Acrobat Reader 9 (very unstable)
Adobe ImageReady CS2 (no Photoshop yet)
Arora (WebKit Internet Browser)
FastStone Image Viewer (fixed plugin crash)
Foxit Reader 3.1
ICQ 6.5 / ICQLite
GIMP 2.6 (usable, fixed brush trace)
Half-Life 2 Episode One/Two (SteamEmu)
Miranda IM 0.8.x Unicode
Mozilla Thunderbird 3 (fixed out of space errors)
Nero DiscSpeed 4
QtCreator 1.2.1
SoftMaker Office 2008 (fixed input bugs)
WinAmp 5.5x (fixed ML crash, charset problems)
X-Moto
I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never thought I'd see the last. - Dr. Jerry Eugene Pournelle
La cat timp investesc baietii astia sa faca Win98 mai bun ma gandesc ca ori e vorba de o pasiune care nu are de-a face strict cu performanta&co, ori au prea mult timp liber
Nu-i ca si cum ar programa ei kernelul de la 0, fac clean room design sau adauga bucati open source. Chestia asta nu trebuie facuta neaparat pe un OS antic si deja limitat, s-ar putea face pe un OS care pleaca din start cu niste avantaje, adica pleaca de unde e acum Win98-ul asta patchuit, cu niste feature-uri pe care nu trebuia sa le inginereasca sub forma de patch ele fiind deja acolo.
Ii urmau si ei pe astia de-aci.
Fac retorica, nu astept un raspuns
She wore blue velvet
Nici cu XP nu vad de ce ar merita efortul, dealtfel orice sistem de operare x86 este depasit cel putin moral - eu deja incep sa resimt si limitele fizice nu doar psihologice. Totusi mi s-ar parea fun sa fac si sa desfac in felul asta un SO facut special pentru cerintele mele, eu nu am reusit sa depasesc stadiul nLite/vLite.
How I wish, how I wish you were here. / We're just two lost souls / Swimming in a fish bowl, / Year after year,
Running over the same old ground. / What have we found? / The same old fears. / Wish you were here.
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
Pai sa te apuci de surubarit la un SO cu o baza de useri extrem de limitata e pierdere de vreme. Nu ai nici cu cine, nici pentru cine.
Adica pentru ceva gen Windows gasesti suficienti programatori capabili si dispusi sa lucreze pro bono, gasesti si oameni care sa ii motiveze, sa-i impinga de la spate, la figurat vorbind.
In ce altceva sa investesti daca nu x86? Intreb pentru ca nu am inteles afirmatia ta: cand spui x86 te referi la "32 biti" sau cuprinzi aici si x86-64? Pentru ca daca x86 per total e depasit nu prea vad in ce sa bagi resurse. IA-64, PPC?
Ok, XP64 atunci. Sau 2003 64 bit, dupa preferinte. In fine, un SO mai modern decat 98 in care trebuie sa investesti resurse considerabile doar ca sa il aduci la nivel de secol 21.
She wore blue velvet
Nici 2003-64 nu merită eforturi de îmbunătățire - poți păstra doar 2008 R2 care oricum e un superset al 2003-64 și concentrezi eforturile pe un singur produs, nu te împrăștii pe 3-4 fără nici un beneficiu concret. Simplifici mult și ca suport, compatibilitate, bug fixes, costuri.
unreasonable
Poate ai fi suficient de motivant sa lucrezi pentru tine, pentru a-ti face sistemul de operare cum ti l-ai dori tu? Nu cred ca cei care mai lucreaza la Win98 o fac pentru a deveni celebri, pentru ca milioane de oameni sa afle de fapta lor, nu cred ca o eventuala popularitate ii motiveaza.
Corect, am folosit gresit expresia, ma gandisem la sistemele de operare pe 32 biti, x86 are un inteles mult mai larg...
How I wish, how I wish you were here. / We're just two lost souls / Swimming in a fish bowl, / Year after year,
Running over the same old ground. / What have we found? / The same old fears. / Wish you were here.
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
Daca ar fi vorba de pasiune si atat as modifica orice. Nu as tine cont de valoarea practica pentru ca intervine pasiunea. Daca ma uit si la aspectele practice nu m-as apuca sa "tunez" un sistem de operare la care dupa ce muncesc o perioada considerabila de timp abia reusesc sa il aduc la nivelul unui sistem de operare mediocru spre bun in ziua de azi.
Am vorbit de sisteme de operare ca XP si 2003 pentru ca inca au ceva potential si mai ales pentru ca dezvoltarea lor s-a incheiat deja. Acum e randul altora sa vada ce pot sa scoata din ele. Cat timp producatorul (MS) inca dezvolta acel SO mi se pare stupid sa te apuci sa il modifici, iar la primul SP sa o iei de la capat pentru ca multe chestii se schimba substantial. In momentul asta de optimizarea lui 2008 R2 se ocupa MS, nu prea vad cat de mult ai putea sa il imbunatatesti mai rapid sau mai bine ca ei in momentul asta fara sa investesti o caruta de bani. O optimizare mai basic deja poti sa o faci singur pana la urma, daca ai ceva cunostinte, dar nu despre aia e vorba. Discutam de chestii care modifica fundamental SO-ul.
She wore blue velvet
Corect, producatorul inca mai dezvolta softul dar poate il dezvolta intr-o directie gresita din punctul meu de vedere. Exemplu W7. Ma rog, asta poate fi o discutie lunga, buna la o cafea dar cam off-topic pe acest thread.
How I wish, how I wish you were here. / We're just two lost souls / Swimming in a fish bowl, / Year after year,
Running over the same old ground. / What have we found? / The same old fears. / Wish you were here.
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
Atunci ne vedem la cafea
She wore blue velvet
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